How the bbc keeps on ignoring the jobseeker, and jobserve is utterly useless at protecting the jobseeker!! Lose lose!

------- Forwarded message ------- From: "Simon Ball" To: "haveyoursay@bbc.co.uk" Cc: Subject: Fwd: Re: FW: JobServe Feedback - haveyoursay bbc august 2015 Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:34:42 +0100 Good morning, Please find enclosed what it is like to deal with job websites... Kind regards Simon Ball ------- Forwarded message ------- From: "Simon Ball" To: "FeedBack (JobServe)" Cc: Subject: Re: FW: JobServe Feedback Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 10:16:37 +0100 Hi Daryl, Many thanks for this. I feel i should note that i have tried the checklist approach where i ask the agencies a few questions about the role. The agencies then don't put you forward for the role as they don't want to answer questions they don't know the answer to. You can tell the agency has literally just been given the jobspec and nothing more. The agent has not probed into what the role entails for the candidate. This is dire for the candidate. Also i have been along for interviews where the agency has told me it is this format ie. will go through your work history, and on attendance they do anything but this. What is the point of the preparation? Kind regards Simon On Thu, 31 May 2012 12:26:06 +0100, FeedBack (JobServe) wrote: > Hi Simon > > I am sorry that you have had these bad experiences with your job hunting. > > We believe that JobServe does more than any other Job Board to ensure > that both their candidates and recruiters have a good experience when > using our services. We continue to look at ways in which we can improve > what we have to offer, but we cannot dictate what advertisers may chose > to omit from their job postings. > > It is also debatable what is 1st line and what is 2nd line, as there is > often overlap between the two and the interpretation will differ from > company to company. In fact many jobs are advertised as 1st/2nd line > support. However I do understand this is not necessarily helpful for you > > Assuring you of our best intentions. > > > Kind regards > > > Daryl Tomlinson > Quality Control Clerk > > Aspire Media Group > [cid:image001.gif@01CD3F0E.80FB3050] > Tower Business Park, Kelvedon Road, Tiptree - Colchester - CO5 0LX - > United Kingdom > Telephone: + 44 (0) 1621 813351 Ext: 1351 > http://www.jobserve.com/ Daryl.Tomlinson@AspireMediaGroup.net > > > > > From: Simon Ball > Sent: 30 May 2012 09:12 > To: FeedBack (JobServe) > Subject: Re: JobServe Feedback > > Hi Daryl, > > I've just been to the advertisers and candidates terms and conditions > section: > > Verification of every job you advertise to ensure it is correctly > classified for the optimum reach, and correcting common presentation > mistakes > > and in the candidate section: > > Verification of every job to ensure that it is correctly classified, a > genuine opportunity and not a generic 'trawler' position > > This isn't happening. > 2nd line roles are routinely being classed as 1st line by employers. > > I loathe alchemy...the only way to get rid of it is to get a mail > and say no for 3 months. There is nothing smart about it! > · Employing our Alchemy smart match engine to proactively match > candidates with jobs - even if the candidate's search criteria have > previously missed that job > > It will only take one more 'false' interview via jobserve and i will > cancel > my account permanently. > > Kind regards > Simon > > On 29/05/12 14:06, FeedBack (JobServe) wrote: > Hi Simon > > Because JobServe are a job board we cannot comment on who is and who is > not a honest recruitment agency, the practises of recruitment agencies > is beyond our control providing they are not breaking our terms and > conditions when they place an advert with us. We check each advert that > is posted to ensure they are genuine, but as for the amount of content a > recruiter gives before interview is down to them. My advice would be to > have a checklist of what you are willing and not willing to do and > although it won't prevent every outcome it may help eliminate some job > interviews for jobs that you wouldn't want to do. You can use this when > the recruiter contacts you. > > You can also try and get more information before interview of what the > role entails but sometimes it will be a case of going to an interview > and finding out there. The positive way to look at it is you are getting > interviews, so take heart from that. Keep trying Simon and good luck. > > > Kind regards > > > Daryl Tomlinson > Quality Control Clerk > > Aspire Media Group > [cid:image001.gif@01CD3F0E.80FB3050] > Tower Business Park, Kelvedon Road, Tiptree - Colchester - CO5 0LX - > United Kingdom > Telephone: + 44 (0) 1621 813351 Ext: 1351 > http://www.jobserve.com/ Daryl.Tomlinson@AspireMediaGroup.net > > > > From: Simon Ball > Sent: 29 May 2012 09:10 > To: FeedBack (JobServe) > Subject: Re: JobServe Feedback > > Hi Daryl, > > Many thanks for your reply. > > I have had to come off of a lot of agencies as they send me to jobs but > do not give the full job description. > Hays in all its many guises is one, I have been to the Dept for > Business, Innovation and Skills as well as > my local mp to complain of their tactics when getting candidates to go > for interviews. > Most now don't even tell you the working hours or describe 2nd line > roles as 1st line roles. > One very memorable interview for Hays sent me to a firm in Milton Keynes > only for me to find out i would be working nights when i sat down for > interview, i wasn't in the interview room 5 minutes. > How can this be helpful to either the employer or to the candidate? > > As for adecco and all its subsidaries i am currently asking them to > investigate my last interview. > A contract role i went to for them (Badenoch and Clark) i was moved from > pc to pc every day until i gave up cleaning > both the pc and keyboard for them. They where filthy and this was for > the NHS! > > At the moment my job prospects in IT are pretty much zero, the way the > agencies work i wonder if i will > ever secure another role. > They must get paid per interview! > Wish i did! > > Are there any honest recruitment agencies out there or are they all > salesmen with no knowledge of the role they are selling? > > Kind regards > Simon > > > > > > On 28/05/12 14:22, FeedBack (JobServe) wrote: > Hi Simon > > I am sorry you are not having any luck job hunting at the moment, my > advice would be to keep trying, if you require any assistance we have a > Job seeker page which may be of benefit: > http://www.jobserve.com/gb/en/content/help/faqs/candidate.htm > > I hope you do not become too despondent and find the job you are looking > for soon. > > > Kind regards > > > Daryl Tomlinson > Quality Control Clerk > > Aspire Media Group > [cid:image001.gif@01CD3F0E.80FB3050] > Tower Business Park, Kelvedon Road, Tiptree - Colchester - CO5 0LX - > United Kingdom > Telephone: + 44 (0) 1621 813351 Ext: 1351 > http://www.jobserve.com/ Daryl.Tomlinson@AspireMediaGroup.net > > > > From: feedback@jobserve.com > > Sent: 26 May 2012 15:52 > To: FeedBack (JobServe) > Subject: JobServe Feedback > > Good afternoon, > > So far since August last year i've been for 11 interviews, not all via > jobserve, but quite a few. > > I get little or no feedback, and when i do get it it is of the type that > makes you not want to be jobhunting. > > Is there any point at all in jobhunting at the moment, as when i get to > the interview they then list all the the skills they wanted that they > failed to put on the jobspec. > > The jobhunter has to give up sometime, now seems a opportune time. > > Kind regards > Simon > AccountNumber : > PAGE > URL:/gb/en/FeedbackMini.aspx?EmailTo=feedback%40jobserve.com&Referrer=%2fHomepageNew.aspx > URL FROM :http://www.jobserve.com/gb/en/content/help/contact-us.htm > BROWSER :Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; 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